And as for those who saw and heard, they became obsessed with the case. Abu Abdullah, Samer Al-Mashra'i, and Muhammad Naji Al-Raqeem went to Abdul Qadir, knocked on his door several times, and he was not there.

After they moved away from Abdul Qadir's house, they saw him coming towards them from afar. They waited for him. When he arrived, he looked at Abu Abdullah angrily and took him by the hand.

He said: "I want you, come," and pulled him away from the others, then said: "What do you want from me?"

Abu Abdullah replied: "Nothing... we just came to visit you. Don't speak to me without the others." Then Abu Abdullah returned to the group.

Abdul Qadir shouted: "What do you want from me?"

Abu Abdullah said: "I don't want anything."

Abdul Qadir shouted, saying: "Do you think I am the Antichrist?"

Abu Abdullah was emboldened by his provocation to talk about this subject, so he said to him: "Is it conceivable that you are the Antichrist? In Yemen?"

Then he followed up with another question, asking him: "Who bewitched me?!" Abdul Qadir replied: "Go and see who bewitched you."

Abu Abdullah said: "O Abdul Qadir... you asked to go to Afghanistan, and I showed you the way, and I guided you to the youth. Do you think I am behind the problem that occurred between you and them?"

He said: "Yes." So Abu Abdullah swore to him that he had nothing to do with it.

Then Abdul Qadir denied that he was the one who performed the magic or caused it.

Then a series of verbal altercations began. Abdul Qadir's anger intensified and his fury grew.

His eyes turned red, his fangs appeared, his forehead bulged, and the writing on his forehead contracted again. This was at sunset, and the horizon was red. The remnants of the sun's redness shone on his face, making his face like a flame of fire.

Abu Abdullah said: "Abdul Qadir's appearance at that time reminded me of the hadith of the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him and his family, in his description of the Antichrist, when he said (his head is like a viper [narrated by Ahmad and Al-Tabarani])."

In any case! Little by little, the discussion calmed down and the atmosphere softened. Before the meeting ended, Abdul Qadir gave everyone present a carnelian stone.

They took the carnelian stones, except that Abu Abdullah refused to take his share. Then Abdul Qadir engaged in a long discussion about the carnelian stones and that he was looking for a stone called "amber stone." Abdul Qadir was very fond of precious stones and loved them passionately. It occurred to Abu Abdullah that Abdul Qadir had a connection and link to sorcery.

Then the people left, leaving Abdul Qadir behind them, and got into their car. Abu Abdullah turned to his companions, chiding them for taking the carnelian stones, and said to them: "Who knows, perhaps he put something of magic in this carnelian stone." Then he took the carnelian stones from them and threw them out of the car window.

The suffering of magic again: Exactly the next day, after the afternoon prayer, Abu Abdullah had closed his eyes and relaxed a little, when he heard his brother Saleh calling: "Abu Abdullah... Abu Abdullah." Abu Abdullah opened his eyes and saw his brother standing in front of him.