The sound of conversation was interrupted by knocks on the door. Abd al-Qadir, veiled, stood up and asked the knocker from the window, "Who is it?" Muhammad asked, "Is this the house of Valen?" He gave a false name. "No," he replied, and left. Ali Hamza had agreed with him to do this to instill fear in Abd al-Qadir's heart. Muhammad had a collection of keys and chains on his waist to create a sense of terror while walking. Afterward, Abd al-Qadir sat down, and Ali said to him, "This took your picture without you realizing it." He didn't notice that Abd al-Qadir was veiled when he opened the door. It is worth mentioning that Ali Hamza found a book of maps with Abd al-Qadir. He said to him, "Do you use these maps to rule the world?!" Then he asked for permission to borrow the book, and he granted it. Ali left, and after a few days, he came and placed the book leaning against the door, so that when the door was opened, the book would fall inside the moment it was opened. This is a threatening maneuver used by intelligence agents. Meaning, you are threatened with falling dead the moment you open the door, like the book falling. In the end, Ali Hamza concluded his conversation with Abu Abdullah by saying, "After all this, we contacted you to inform you of what happened between us and the man. Now we advise you to stay away from him, because he is suspicious, and he might be an intelligence agent, and perhaps a double agent or an agent for several countries. We have received news that he has gone to Saudi Arabia several times and met a man named Hassan Arishi. We know that this Arishi is a Saudi intelligence agent, and he may have recruited him for his own purposes." This information astonished Abu Abdullah, especially since he intended to travel to Saudi Arabia. He felt that the door was closed to him, because everything he had told Abd al-Qadir, he might have relayed to Saudi Arabia, and he might be arrested immediately upon entering Saudi Arabia. Abu Abdullah says, "And in that meeting on that bus, it surprised me, and I felt deep down that even though I saw my two former friends, Ali Hamza and Muhammad Saleh, in their appearance and heard the tone of their speech, their movements were unusual." He said, "And it seemed to me as if the two people in front of me were nothing but two demons from the jinn, appearing in the form of my friends." And in that meeting, they conveyed several messages to me, including what Muhammad Saleh reminded me of when he asked about Abd al-Qadir's eyes. He said, "Did you see any white spots in Abd al-Qadir's eyes?" I said, "Yes, I saw them." He said, "What do you think they are?" I said, "I don't know, but I remember asking him about them once. He told me it was an illness, and I had eye drops with me in Sudan to remove them. But the health situation in Yemen is weak, and these drops are not available. I will send to get them from there, and I will use them. He said he sees with one eye and not with the other." Muhammad Saleh said, "Are these white spots in the eye mentioned in the prophetic hadiths?" I said, "No, no."