He is a liar and unknown. Then the brothers Ali Hamza and Muhammad Sambusa agreed to go to Abd al-Qadir's house.

Ali Hamza says: We arrived at his house at midnight. I knocked on his door, and Muhammad Sambusa left. Abd al-Qadir came out wearing an ihram robe for Hajj, which he had placed on his head and veiled himself with. Abd al-Qadir asked him: Who do you want?

Ali said: First, say "Please enter."

Abd al-Qadir said: Please enter.

When they entered, Ali Hamza acted like a security man.

Ali said: We heard you want to go to Afghanistan. There is no need to travel. Whatever weapons you wish to train on, we will train you on them in any of the Yemeni state's camps. Abd al-Qadir's face changed, and he began to put his hand on his stomach, begging and asking not to be harmed, saying: I am your brother and a stranger, so do not harm me.

Ali Hamza pointed to him with his index finger (raising his thumb) - a gesture for weapons - as in the picture (No. 1).

He said to him: O stranger, be polite - meaning, be polite.

(Picture 1): Ali Hamza's gesture to Abd al-Qadir.

Abd al-Qadir said: If you point to the Lord of the Worlds, point like this - meaning with the thumb lowered.

He used the same gesture except he brought his thumb closer, as in the picture (No. 2), and pointed with his index finger downwards.

(Picture 2): Abd al-Qadir's gesture to himself.