ZEBEHR PASHA INTERROGATED. 67 ZebeJir. You recommended my son — Nubar. Zebehr says he was not responsible for Suleiman, as the latter was then a colonel under Gordon Pasha.

Gordon. Then I understand, Zebehr Pasha, that you do not deny that your son rebelled, or that, if he rebelled, he was liable to be put to death. I say your son did kill these 200 black troops in the Bahr Gazelle.

ZebeJir. But what about my property having been confiscated?

Gordon. I told you before, that the letter is my justification for the confiscation. That ends the first question. If the letter is found, it will show that not only was all your property liable to be confiscated, but that you, too, were in danger of being put to death. On the other hand, if the government will allow me, I say that if the letter docs not exist, and if your property has been unjustifiably confiscated, I shall then recommend the Egyptian government to compensate you for your loss. I shall be first to see that reparation is done to you.

Zebehr. I did not come to Cairo for money, but to see what was the will of the government, and to enlist men. As to my son — Gordon. That is unnecessary. I treated your son with every consideration. I was not unkind to him; I did my best for him.

Zebehr. But you killed my son whom I intrusted to you. lie was as your own son.

Gordon. Well, well, I killed my own son. There is an end of it.

Zebehr. And then you brought my wives and women and children in chains to Khartum, a thing which, for my name in the Soudan, was most degrading.

Gordon. I differ from you. They were not in chains. I gave there every facility in the matter. But there! there is no use in Zebehr Pasha continually saying one thing and I another.

Zebehr. The greatness, the justice of England is known throughout the Soudan, but you did not treat me justly.

Sir E. Baring. General Gordon, have you any other questions to ask him except on these two points?

Gordon. No.

Sir E. Daring. Then I wish to explain to Zebehr Pasha that T railed this meeting at my house at General Gordon's request; that General Gordon had heard that Zebehr had certain complaints to make against him; and that although it was not particularly my business to hear th complaints, at the same time, as General Gordon wished it, I was quite willing to be present at the discussion between General Gordon and Zebehr Pasha.